every time putin and obama meet putin scolds obama. here might be an opportunity to say look you don't like the chechens? is there anyway we can work together to deal with international terrorism. you may not have been worried about them before this, but you have just as much of a problem with all of the countries on your periphery that are potentially becoming radical islamic states of the -- states. is there a way to work together maybe on this one thing and then it can lead to cooperation on other things? ultimately we would love their cooperation on iran and the nuclear program, but maybe we can take these baby steps to say let's start sharing intelligence. how do you see this threat evolving? maybe we can work on that. >> do you think it was the russians that two years ago tipped off the fbi that lead them to interview literally the older 26-year-old brother? >> maybe. maybe there was kazakstan. there were a lot of other countries where this family has moved around to in central asia. they were in russia in the chechnya part of ru